For clear coating the finished project - apply very fine mist coats to build up a seal coat slowly before going anywhere near a wet coat. The decals feel really thin, almost like a Mylar. Never had a problem with it. 21303 posts in 2805 days. I'm an automotive painter and I've done hundreds of projects that involved clearing over decals of some sort. I made one that called the guitar a "Fred Pretendocaster" and it got some good reactions. We've had great success with urethane base type clear coats. Repeat until there are no more edges. If there is no clear-coat over the decals then you have several options: 1) Apply heat (hair dryer, IR lamp, propane torch) and gently scrape off. The sticker will leave a lip of clearcoat around the edge where you removed it. but as popeye said you can try on a test plate a see for sure. I scuffed the coat with the gray Scotchbrite, then applied my production clear and let it sit. Table with vinyl decals under epoxy « back to Designing Woodworking Projects forum. • Trim excess carrier film: Some decal images have an excess of carrier film outside the image area. Messages 3,790. My clear coating so far has had mixed results and that's before the decal stage. Then wait a couple or days or a week and then color sand the clear to flatten any orange peel and remove dirt nubs. Requires a little more refining before I tackle the Bruiser. [Then.,] sand the edge smooth with … Clean area with automotive wax and grease remover. yelo. 2) You can also "remove decals under clear coat by heating with a hairdryer until the decal got soft, then picking at the edge, until [you can] peel the sticker off. I suspect other models probably were different. Advertisement. I need to re-Clear the tank since It is looking shabby, But want to keep the Decals intact. Our decals do not need to be clear coated, but the life span will be increased significantly if you choose to clear coat. Once the decal is suctioned to the kit with the softener and smooth, apply another coat of clear gloss to seal everything in and prevent damage to the decal. 09-23-2012, 06:00 PM. Just be careful applying them. Re: painting decals on powder coat most liquid will not hold up to powder temps and if the do you still have the problem of them causing the clear powder to lift off. I use a gray scotchbrite pad. Moderator of Rider's Gear and Help me Fix it. Posted by astapleford on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:27 AM I've just finished painting and decaling a loco. I have heard that with the decals, it's important not to go too heavy with the clear coat to start with. I was able to remove nearly 90% of the sticker in this way, and under is a clean original factory color coat. Forum topic by firefighterontheside: posted 09-08-2019 03:50 PM: 1390 views: 0 times favorited: 12 replies: firefighterontheside. CLEAR COATING OVER DECALS. And as a plus, the stuff spreads out really well. 4. Only use high quality PPG or BASF automotive type clear coat paint. If the spot was smaller then a quarter we just spot primed with a UV curable primer from PPG. He did say however that a friend of his who rides easton wheels removed the decals by sanding though the clear coat. I've got a motorcycle gas tank that has the decals clear coated over. He said the structural integrity of the wheel doesn't change by removing a decal. Your model may have a flat finish, but you can coat decal areas with clear gloss, apply the decals, then return after they are dry and apply a clear coat with the desired sheen. Install decals as shown in your order's enclosed instructions. J. JimmyR Member. Can someone tell me the best way to remove them with ruining the underlying paint? If you hit metal you will need to reprime with a DTM primer before you use a waterbased paint like Aqualac or One Hit Wonder. 5 or 6 coats should suffice for regular race finish. The purpose of a clear coat is to accomplish something else, some intended purpose. It's been about 48+ hours, and haven't seen any reaction. Follow these instructions. John Jolley hobbyist - Port Saint John, Florida. I have clear coated vinyl decals on motorcycle tanks. This is normal and will disappear after drying. Application of decals (and attendant setting solution). He said they warranty wheels without decals. Then I progress to slightly heavier coats with about half an hour flash time. Like you said, he doesn't recommend using clear coat over decals due to conflicting compatability issues. Wetsand the clear, reapply clear, and wetsand again. Don’t panic! I see tables that are made like this. 1. Be sure to wet sand surface where decals will be installed using a 1,000 grit sand paper. 340 Posts . you'll want to be careful not to get too aggresive and get into the color area under the old decal area. home | projects | blog. I'm painting my bikes next month, and I plan on putting everything under the clear. Again flash time between mists is about 10-15 minutes. High Speed Autographics / graphicsunderclear.com is not responsible for any problems during or after the Clear Coat Process. Low temperature PSA decals – used above clear coat.Do not require any heat treatment and are applied at ambient temperature. Requires single oven. If it's a painted decal it's likely the absence of a base coat in … Removing decals under clear coat. I'm an automotive painter and I've done hundreds of projects that involved clearing over decals of some sort. Method 2 of 3: Applying Decals to Nails. On Clearcoating Decals: Under normal circumstances, it is not necessary to clearcoat our decals if they were installed on a properly cleaned surface. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SAND THE DECAL IN ANY WAY. We have not tested all clear coat type paints and we use a professional paint shop to get perfect results. Looking at a decal under magnification you can sometimes see the clear coat over the decal sheet has a bit of built-up edge on the edge of each individual decal image. Do to the many variables of "Custom Painting" we can not guarantee the success of any paint project in anyway using our Graphics Under Clear Motorcycle Graphic Images. No bleeding, wrinkling, curling. 3. There should be plenty of layers below the decal to sand into before you hit metal, usually e-coat, prime, base and 1 clear at least. It's been a while since I worked on such a decal … I like to clear over the base coat with a couple or three clear layers. So adding a clear coat will generally fall under these categories: Protection– You may want to protect work already finished. Anyone ever shoot Clear coat on top of Decals with good results? Repeat until there are no more edges. 12-28-2013, 06:27 PM. Your clear coat may also look foggy and transluscent white. I thought about making the tank and wet sanding through the clear coat to the decal and trying to peel it off. Trimming it off reduces the chances of it being visible on the model later. 1. I've owned it since new, so I know for sure that it came that way from the factory. March 9, 2009. Apply more clear as needed. 2. Spray about 10-15 coats, letting each dry about 30 minutes in between. if you plan on liquid graphics i would use liquid to clear and save the heartach of haveing to start over. Clear coat over decals. I just laid it on with an airbrush straight up, with no thinning, and it went on super easy. Remove any residue with WD-40, lighter fluid, glass cleaner, &c (fine steel wool, if needed). It's under the clear, so your options are to sand it out, if it's a vinyl decal under and you don't damage the base coat respray with a good 2K clear, sand 1500->2000->3000, then 3 stage buff back to shine. Top clear coat of Tamiya rattle-can semi-gloss for a satiny finish. Apply another coat of clear gloss to the surface with a brush. We can’t put decals under powder lacquer due to the heat, for me to put a wet 2k lacquer on the frame will take 3-4 weeks and cost a further £120. It has been a long time since I have done this and have forgotten what final clear finish to use over the decals and loco overall to seal them in. Has anyone done this? Should I apply the decals over the Zero paint, then clear coat, or clear, then apply decals, then clear again? Since we use only the best quality vinyl films (the same vinyls used by the automotive OEMs for their pinstriping and graphics), these products are NOT coming off unless you forcefully pick at them. I tend to use 6 - 8 mist coats or more. Also, I own a new old stock tank and 2 side covers for my model and they are done the same way. My plan is to clear coat, decal, then clear again to seal the decals in. Decals on wood and under varnish? High temperature PSA decals – can be used on temperature treated surfaces at temperature 150- 180°C, used under clear coat only.Easy to apply, suitable only for smaller designs. Heat resistant decals give our customers many options for applying artwork to their products without concern for heat in the production process or later use. Clear coating in and of itself is nothing magical. That first coat needs to be really dry or you run the risk of damaging the decal. I started using the 1500 grit to remove the last 10% of the decals, and continued with it to remove the line around the border of where the decal was. ANY air bubbles will expand over time and look like shit. these decals actually look pretty descent. He needs to try out this Future floor stuff! I am going to give it more time in the sun do a pull test after it is really cured. Wetsand the clear, reapply clear, and wetsand again. May 31, 2007 #5 Better still, why not make your own decal? I called the factory, and they said that the decals had a clear coat on them. The industry standard method of putting clear over vinyl would be to lay a base coat, apply the vinyl, clear coat and let cure. That way you can get the base coat sealed up within 24 hours of application like you are supposed to. The tank I am painting looks to have factory Harley decals on it. I'd say after... Decals will be easier to apply on a level even surface (clear coat) than on a dull ruff one (base coat) AND in my opinion will be more authentique too, real race cars arent clear coat over the decals.... bradfordian. The customer will assume all risks. On my 02, I was going along taking off the graphics on the farings, all was great, lovin how it was starting to look. The industry standard method of putting clear over vinyl would be to lay a base coat, apply the vinyl, clear coat and let cure. Clear coat of Tamiya rattle-can gloss. Discussion Starter • #1 • Aug 4, 2008. The chairs will be used in a protected area and not exposed to the weather full time. I am in the process of building the Bistro stools for our daughter and SIL that were in the Wood Magazine about a year or so ago. Whether needed to withstand the heat of a powder clear coat after application or use on a barbeque grill, temperature is no longer an issue. On my 1977 KZ650-C1 the tank decals are under the clear coat and the side cover and tail decals are over the clear coat. Allow the top coat to dry and you’re all done! The thick clear coat should cover any bubbles and hide them. If you DON'T put the decals under the clear on the tank and then spill gas on them, they will no longer stick, though. Show Full Signature. 09-08-2019 03:50 PM . They have a very glossy appearance, so I am thinking It is probably not going to work since sanding them may jack them up. Put very light dry coat on decal from a foot away let that dry over night. 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